Why the Pintetest Smart Feed is Worthless (One Blogger's Opinion)

Tuesday, February 16, 2016

As you probably know, Pinterest has changed dramatically recently. Here is an article from their engineering blog explaining some of it and the reasons for it. In short, every day Pinterest bears less and less resemblance to the site that it was initially when we all fell in love with it. Pinterest has been important enough to me that I wanted to write about it and ask for your thoughts. The ultimate goal is to have Pinterest see this post and consider making changes, so please comment and share if you are so inclined.

As far as I can tell, there are two reasons to use Pinterest. The first is to save everything in an organized way to the boards you create. The second is to find content – new pins, new ideas, new blogs, new stores, new recipes, new decorating styles, new products, etc. The first has not been changed and this post is not meant to address it. It's the second reason – to find new content – that has fundamentally changed and that I mean to address in this post.

A Brief History of Pinterest's Evolution

Where does Pinterest get its content?  From us, its users. First, users who have blogs and other websites create "original pins," where we save content from our websites in the hopes that it will drive traffic to our sites (and for me it does - currently, more people find me through Google searches than through Pinterest, although for a long time the opposite was true.) Second, users also create "original pins" from other people's websites from all over the internet to save the things we love. Third, users "repin" content that comes up in our feeds from our followers or from a search.

In the past and as I'm sure you all remember, users told Pinterest what they wanted to see in their feed by following fellow pinners.  For a while, all was good and the site took off and everyone loved it.  Those were the good old days.

Then at some point not too long ago, Pinterest took away the ability for users to see their pins in their own feed. I actually want to see my own pins and can't understand why excluding your own pins wouldn't be an option rather than mandatory, but in my opinion it wasn't the end of the world when Pinterest made that change.

Next, at some point Pinterest added the ability to follow interests as well as pinners. Great, I guess.  No harm done.

Inevitably, at some other point, Pinterest then started advertising through "promoted pins."  I guess it was a matter of time, and we probably all saw it coming. Still, it was in no way a deal breaker for me. Just like any other website, Pinterest has the ultimate goal of being profitable. Sponsored pins are a perfectly reasonable approach, in my opinion. Although in some ways promoted pins choose content for the user, all advertising does that, and again, I was fine with it.

Then Pinterest added "buyable pins."  They say they are not making money off of these. I really don't care either way. I understand that these pins are going to come up in my feed the same way advertisements, or promoted pins, do and I'm fine with it. No one is forcing me to click them, after all.

But now, for me it is the final straw. I can accept all of the rest of the changes and still be an ardent fan and daily user of Pinterest. But the new "smart feed" is a disaster and if it is truly the future of Pinterest, I'll be using Instagram and other sources to find new ideas rather than Pinterest. I didn't see that coming and it saddens me tremendously.

The New Smart Feed

With the smart feed, Pinterest decided that it would no longer simply show you the pins of the people or businesses you follow in chronological order.  Rather, it would choose your content for you.

Wait, what?! This is mind-boggling to me. I have read that the smart feed utilizes the same methods that search engines do to show you the pins that it thinks you will want to see in a stated effort to enhance user experience. There are massive problems with this approach, and in my opinion it is not at all well thought out. After having used it for a while now, here are my problems with it:

It's paternalistic and controlling. We had a good thing going Pinterest. Why did you have to go and tell me what I want to see? It's annoying and insulting and so far you've gotten it wrong every single time I have logged in. The bottom line is I know what I want to see better than your algorithm ever will. And I pretty effectively told you what I wanted to see when I followed people and boards that I liked.  Seriously, being able to control our own individualized content was the draw of Pinterest in the first place and to fundamentally change that user control is misguided.

Go ahead and suggest all the pins you want as far as I'm concerned, and use any algorithm you want to pick them. But for goodness sake, don't stop also showing us the pins that we specifically told you we want to see. Honestly, this is a no-brainer. It is so obvious that it is mind boggling that it has to pointed out, and I think evidences a clear misunderstanding of user motivation.

But far and away the biggest problem with the new smart feed is that it brings old content to the top of the feed and encourages people to re-pin older pins, sold out items, obsolete ideas, and the like.  In the new smart feed, pins that have proven success (among other things) will show up first.  Well, proven success means it has already been pinned a lot.  Here's the problem – things that have already been pinned a lot have already been seen a lot.  They are also, almost by definition, older. In fact, my new "smart" feed consistently shows me lots of old pins that I have already pinned. And not once, but over and over and over again.  Do you guys go to Pinterest to see pins that you have already saved? To see decorating ideas from three years ago? To see what a celebrity wore to the Grammys two years ago? To see outdated paint colors? Neither do I.

Maybe there are people and businesses out there that want to see older content, but it's hard to imagine. And I know from tracking it in the analytics that every single thing I pin from this website or any other that is "new" is not being shown in my followers' feeds.  But Pinterest assures that as these pins become liked and repinned they will be shown more often, and will therefore "eventually" be seen. This seems completely illogical because if they are not showing the new pin in the first place, how will it be liked and pinned and become popular? But more importantly, who wants to "eventually" see the next new big thing? We want to see it when it is fresh. Sadly, we may now have to go to Instagram for that.

Another of my objections relates to products. I follow a lot of stores and pin from a lot of  retailers. Well, the new smart feed also brings old products to the top of my feed (and yours).  I can't tell you how many times in the last few weeks I have clicked on something I like only to be taken to the store to tell me that it is sold out or unavailable. Well I guess of course it is, because the pin is two years old but is nevertheless showing up at the top of my feed. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculous that is for sellers and buyers alike.

I did an experiment by repinning old products from my own boards that had generated a lot of repins in the past, but that are sold out. I did this for unavailable items to see whether repins of popular items are shown the way older pins of the same item are. Unfortunately, both come up in the smart feed - popular old pins as well as repins of that same item, whether it is still available or not. This makes sense since it seems unlikely that an algorithm could ever really know if the item is still available. It is unfortunate though, and leaves a negative taste in the mouth of the user who sees something they want and then finds out it is not available. I think this will be damaging to Pinterest as well as to people like me who were the original pinners of products long ago when they were available.

Additionally, Pinterest allows pay per click links through ShopStyle, which means spammers have more of an incentive than ever to re-pin popular items regardless of whether they are available. In fact, that's the only way they can succeed, since their new pins (i.e., newer products) will not be shown at the same rate. So by definition the only product pins you really are going to initially see are old ones that are in many, many cases unavailable. So Pinterest has seemingly just negated a huge portion of retail use. Ouch.

Despite all this, I have gained a record number of followers in the last couple of weeks, since smart feed was fully integrated for me.  I have no idea why and would trade it back for the old way if I could. I have no interest in getting new followers who are clicking through to old content that is no longer relevant. If they click through to a product that is unavailable, they get mad at me for "spamming" or pinning it in the first place (when in fact it was Pinterest who decided to show it to them two years late). That's not good for business. Likewise, it is not good for my business to have users click through to find a blog post that has dated content. In fact, it's not good for me to even have that pin come up in their feed because they will associate me with older and outdated content. Outside of when users search and discover old pins, this should not happen on Pinterest.

I recently wrote to Pinterest support to ask why my analytics were down so much. This was before I had researched the new smart feed, so I didn't know the answer yet. Pinterest's response? "Maybe you should buy ads." Wow. I guess if that's the way you want to go Pinterest, that is your right. But I think it's ill-advised. (In fairness, I have interacted with Pinterest support pretty regularly over the years and have nothing but good things to say other than in this instance and it has nothing to go with the employee and everything to do with company strategy.)

According to some, the new smart feed was to be introduced gradually and was meant to not even be noticed. Well, we noticed. And I think I speak for the majority when I say we hate it. I  have not been able to find one positive thing from a single person anywhere online about the new smart feed.

Honestly, I would pay to use Pinterest if it would go back to the old way, where I could control my feed. I know that all good things come to an end, but I am begging you Pinterest, please don't be one of them. I'll make due without you If I have to Pinterest. But will you make due without us? I hope you'll reconsider the smart feed.

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This is probably the only time I will ever ask you for negative comments. I have said good and bad things about Pinterest before on this blog, and many of you have commented with your own thoughts. I am begging you to do so again here. Good or bad – if I have it wrong please tell me. And if I have it right, please tell Pinterest in the comments. If this post gets enough views and interaction, it's possible someone at Pinterest will read it.

Final note:  The article that provided me with the most insight into the subject is here. It explains things better than I ever could. Also, this and this.

And please pin this (not that anyone will see it- haha!)

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Anonymous said...

You're absolutely right & thank.
When I first noticed it I was baffled by the
Feed content & actually had to check if my friends
or others I was following had deleted their accounts.
I would go to their pages & check if they had recently
pinned, which most had been, I just didn't get why I
wasn't seeing any of it. I'm not on Pinterest nearly as much
anymore, only to check my project boards & I'm never on
the "smart feed" it's a complete waste of time & frankly
Just not very smart. Thanks again for clearing it up.

Anonymous said...

And where are the dates showing when the pin was first created!?! I mainly use Pinterest for up-to-date style tips, decorating ideas, and finding NEW trends & ideas. Now I can't tell if the pin is from years ago or last month! I've been having to do Google searches lately instead. Terrible idea hiding that info, Pinterest!!
Thanks for this blog & voicing this matter.

Anonymous said...

Yes it is frustrating to see Pinterest suggesting outdated pins.
Let's go back to the old way...

Claire Skyme Writer said...

I completely agree with your article. Though I understood little as to why I was unhappy, compared to you, I knew it wasn't the same as it used to be. It just stopped feeling the same. It now feels impersonal and alien with 'someone' out there controlling the feed and interpreting my interests for me. I have tried to turn off the 'picked for you' function and painstakingly gone through the delete process, but to no avail. The picked for you is swamping my chosen boards and interests. I hope all of the above comments go someway to make a difference. Thank you for taking the time to explain what is wrong at the moment and for contacting pinterest on our behalf.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was me... That I had been on Pinterest too much and just kept seeing the same old pins, nothing fresh, new or exciting. I was getting bored with it.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for stating more perfectly the exact things I have been thinking. I have such strong feelings of loyalty that I have been ashamed of myself for some of the things I have been thinking. I thought maybe by hiding and using that Pinterest would get the idea, NOT! I have requested to not have things picked for me in my settings that really doesn't work! I'm tired of seeing Pinterest picking things for me that I have already seen and pinned.

PINTEREST, ARE YOU LISTENING TO US? Do you really want us to feel this way about this site that we have loved and made so popular?

Anonymous said...

Yes, I am so tired of seeing the same old, same old, same old content! I am also tired of having content so directed that I am not seeing new categories of interest. As some one else said Pinterest has managed to break me of my former Pinterest addiction.

Writing With Love said...

I don't like the new smart feed. It's quiet annoying that I can't control the content.

Anonymous said...

I love a lot of things about Pinterest but am also frustrated with it. My main annoyance is that I'm Vegan, I pin vegan related pins and follow vegan pinners but constantly the "picked for you" pins often include non-vegan/meat recipes that I do not wish to see. This really frustrates me. Surely it should be obvious for Pinterest to see that my profile and majority of my boards are vegan related and I do not appreciate seeing non-vegan recipe boards etc. It is very frustrating and I wish they could fix it somehow.

Anonymous said...

I hate the picked for me pins and am avoiding Pinterest till they fix this.

Julia D. said...

I agree with you--I rarely scroll through my feed anymore as the pins seem less relevant than ever. I now tend to rely on following my favorite blogs for inspiration rather than waste time scrolling through old or unappealing pins with few pins from the hundreds of pinners I follow who have like-minded taste.

Anonymous said...

The worst part is this is the first attempt I have seen at saying we hate the "picked for you" option. It was forced on us and then we weren't allowed to give any feed back. Its awful.

Unknown said...

I dislike the new form of Pinterest and the way pins are showed on the face of my account. I liked the other way much better. I also don't like that when I open Pinterest, the new pins are stuff I have already seen or have already pinned. Sometimes they are shown 2 or 3 times as I am scrolling down. I constantly change boards and move boards around and add new boards. Now when I do that and want to go to another board near the board I am working on, Pinterest goes back up to the top of my account and I have to scroll down to where I was to begin with. This is very time consuming and annoying. I am not trying to sell anything on Pinterest or attract followers. I just like pinning and looking at my boards and trying new recipes and learning new things. Boo Pinterest! You have ruined a good thing!

janezee said...

The latest format change (8/12/16) is the final straw. If they don't go back to printing the comments in full, I'm gone.

They've taken all of the personality away, and gone full commercial. It's now for the advertisers, and not for the pinners. Too bad.

I now know why some things are getting resurrected and repinned now. Thanks for a great article and references.

Christine said...

I'm with you all.
Many companies are going to all this white space, lots of Flash or Active X, etc. Why is it, that it's only the vendors who like this stuff? Who is such a great sales person, they can sell this web design as "current and fresh?"

I sorted almost 25 years of bookmarks and Favorites into pins. If the link was still pertinent to me, I pinned it and said why. CLEAN! Pinterest has been my reference for so much! Now? eh.

I noticed today you can't even see how many times a pin has been pinned! I used to find that of passing interest, but huh? Even that? And good luck finding any way to contact Pinterest easily.

Oh well. At least I pinned "how to turn your pins into a .pdf file."

Unknown said...

I joined Pinterest to gain ideas from 'ordinary' folks like me! I loved seeing how people made things from scraps and gave ideas to solve many household problems! Now I see something I like but - when I visit -?it turns out to be 'Etsy' to be sold!!
This was meant to be a worldwide community sharing site!!?
I don't like Pinterest telling me - what they think I would like!! Get back to basics or lose bloggers!!

Anonymous said...

At first I thought something was wrong with my computer when I noticed the Pinterest changes. Sadly, nope, it wasn't just me. I despise the new format. My Boomer eyes can barely see the photos or read the text. The handwriting was on the wall with all of the 'Picked for You' spam. I complained repeatedly about those. I am a HUGE Pinterest user (25,000+ pins), so I didn't need for them to choose pins for me. The pins they chose were either completely worthless, or ones I had pinned months ago. Then came the Promoted pins. Nope, I'm not using those either. Then I found out that I could opt out of the 'Picked for You' pins (Yay!), only to realize they had substituted the 'Ideas for you' that can't be opted out of. Poorly played, Pinterest. Poorly played. I don't go to the site very often now. My beloved boards that I spent so much time choosing cover pix for look squished. It was a visual feast before, but not any more. There are other problems with it too, but not enough time to list them all. :(

Anonymous said...

I absolutely hate the new changes! I hope that Pinterest makes some positive changes before they become extinct.

Anonymous said...

I 100,000 percent agree! I hate it so much I hardly ever even go on Pinterest anymore. The original boards and people I were following are long lost because I'm not going to search through who I follow every time I want to find or remember somebody really cool! I mostly use Houzz now for all my home stuff. Way better. You have complete control and the picture is bigger and better!:) Pinterest has shot themselves in the foot and only a matter of time before better comes along.

Anna & Co said...

Thank You for articulating exactly what I was feeling but didn't know what was wrong! Now I know and I am MAD I had written Pinterest awhile ago about hating the irrelevant ads and gotten no response. I to said I would gladly pay to have it back the old way. I get it they need to make money. But I am sick of Big Brother watching my every move on the internet. I will repin this blog so others can see it. Thanks Anna

Amy said...

I have been almost totally dissatisfied with pinterest deciding what to show me. I'd much, MUCH rather my timeline be as it was ((whatever my people posted, in chronological order) and then if i had an idea or a hankering, i could search. Zuckerbergesque meddling. I'm on pinterest WAY less because of it.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for explaining this so well! I was a major Pinterest member until they started with the smart feed. Now I have no interest in checking because they don't tell me when someone pins my idea and I don't see the pins of a lot of the people who I follow. I enjoy browsing on my own and don't want Pinterest to make suggestions other than simply display pins for me to choose on my own.
As for pins that advertise or sell products, I simply report them and click on "I don't want to see it".

Anonymous said...

Yep 👍🏻 not near as tempting to tune into Pinterest. I use to like to see "who" liked or repinned my pins, now it is a complicated mess. Perhaps it's run its course, had its day!

Anonymous said...

I had stopped using Pinterest because I felt like I wasn't finding anything new anymore and couldn't figure out why!! At least now I know there is a reason. This is outrageous and absurd and is ruining a once great thing. Pinterest is so much less useful now than it used to be before irrelevant ads and other outdated and pointless content started filling up 85-90% of my feed. I desperately wish I could see what my friends and other people I follow were pinning again. But unfortunately I can't anymore. That sucks.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for writing this piece which seeks to clarify the current situation. Unfortunately, Pinterest seems to have very little understanding of their own user's motivations for using the site. The ridiculas and unrelenting redesigns to Pinterest's site are an epic FAIL. Just witness Pinterest's Facebook page for the last six months. No good comments AT ALL! I have never seen so much angst and frustration toward a business. The users are starting to feel a very real sense of disdain and anger at not being heard or heeded. Pinterest has sucked the fun out of their site, then expects people to keep using it. Well, they won't. It's very sad to see people starting to leave the site, but who can blame them? The users told Pinterest thousands of times what was wrong and how to fix it, but Pinterest bullheadly refused to listen.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for putting it all together for me. My Pinterest experience has been different as of late and like many of the other commentors it has drastically reduced my time on pinterest. I get directed to blogs with old content and products that are not available, and those have become the new normal. I am not as inspired or engaged by this so called "smart feed" fills my feed with pins picked for me and promoted pins. I like the author of this article, would pay to have it similar to the way it was.

Anonymous said...

I have only been a member for about 2 months. But really liked and appreciated the old method. Lo and behold when I saw the new smart feed, I hated it, and wrote to SUPPORT. I do not like anything about it this I can tell you.

I agree with what all of you have to say, very hard to follow my followers now I hate that, and too much old stuff on here. I hate it when I click on a pin, or site, and the items is not there at all.

I get tired of seeing the same old things in Picked for you. Well I know what I like and let me pick it. Another thing I am probably the only one who has this problem, but do you know how many times I am on pinterest, and the page just freezes up on me. It gets annoying.

I want to pick the pins I like and follower my followers which is not easy anymore.

Since I have only been a member for a while,i still appreciate the old way of doing things.

Lulugem said...

Wow! Pinterest was my carefree relaxing ME time that turned ugly! First Instagram & now Pinterest they just ruined it all. The experience is no longer the same. I just hate everything about it now! Sooo sad!!!

& ofcourses Businesses suffer too!

I HAD HAD HAD to do pinterest everynight before bedtime...now i don't even wane go once a week. I think this is it, i'm done with it!

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